In Reply to: Re: Minolta experience... posted by Romy on January 17, 2002 at 18:53:36:
Actually I never the subject was the difference between optics. I only said that when I was in college I had the opportunity to compare lenses from several manufacturers & commented on the slight color cast associated with the lenses. This had to do with the lens glass (design) & coating.***"...avoid the transparencies giving some idiosyncrasies and vulnerability of E-6..."***
uhhh..Romy...Kodachrome isn't E-6 processed. At the time I made the comparisons, the process was K-15 & ONLY Kodak could run that process. Essentially, Kodachrome is black and white film with no imaging dyes or color couplers as part of the film. The color dyes are added to the transparency when it is processed. So the color film is "made" for you when it is processed. Much more complicated process, but the results (at the time) were the best you could get with any type of color process.
***"So the coloration of lenses is important as a photographic method and totally insignificant as the viewers’ benefit.***"
Yes, important as a photographic method, and I don't give a shit about the viewer's benefit. I'm not making personal photographs for the viewer. I'm making photographs for me. If someone else likes them - that's fine. If not, that's also fine.
In fact, for years, I so subverted the color in many photographs that you can't tell what is real. I had Harrison & Harrison make a custom filter to my specifications. It makes the film see colors like someone wearing brown sunglasses. Neutral colors (whites, blacks, greys, browns) are rendered normally. Greens are rendered slightly muted, reds are enhanced, and blues are rendered anywhere from grey to steel blue. The idea is to give your eyes something to "key" off of that is rendered "normal" and in the correct brightness relationships (the neutral colors).
If white is rendered correctly, then your brain says that all other colors are correct. But, your brain also knows that they can't be, because the color relationships and brightnesses aren't correct for the colors and this unconsiously disturbs you when you look at the print. The working principles behind this were discovered and studied 40 years ago by Dr. Edwin Land. I just took the information he discovered & applied it to my personal work.
If you’d like to see some photos with the distorted colors, go to:
www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=96471.
If you “click†on the images they will enlarge.
The only time I worry about the viewer's benefit is when I do commercial work. At that point, most people can't even tell whether something is color balanced correctly or not. Most of that work is done on neg film for architects, museums, etc. I don't do portraits. After taking close to 90,000 portraits, I decided I never wanted to do that again.
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Follow Ups
- Kodachrome - xenon101 06:21:31 01/18/02 (2)
- Re: Kodachrome - Romy 09:14:52 01/18/02 (1)
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