In Reply to: It’s like to use the $300 analog system + Vibroplane and to adjust the Vibroplane pressure for each record … posted by Romy on March 24, 2001 at 09:20:35:
You are, bluntly put, absolutely wrong.First, I get very reliable results both from 35mm and 120/220 at the labs I use, in fact I've shot test rolls, etc, at various times, and they are quite consistant, INCLUDING their B&W (not C41 B&W either) performance. The 35mm lab I use is a completely automated place not far from work that's run by a couple of old folks, too, they are fine with it, but the lab is nothing special. The C41 results are entirely consistant, on ISO rating, and I've yet to have them be far enough off in processing to notice. Occasionally they can't handle a really odd negative, but that's not the fault of the processing, some things just have to be printed by hand.
Second, the type of film, contrast, gamma, and saturation are indeed important in shooting situations EVEN IF THE LAB IS NOT GOOD.
I have no idea why why you've chosen to spread some really inaccurate rumours about photography and processing, but you're wrong.
As my MS is in fact in optical processing, I do in fact have a very good clue as to how to both test and evaluate processing and film results. In fact, I've done some res charts, colour balance (yes, I have a target, etc) and so on, and the negs are right on, with no special processing and no comment to the lab. It just comes out right.
You DO notice that consumer films (i.e. gold, etc) are low on my list, because those FILMS are not consistant.
I've had no trouble with the new supra, for instance, in C41. It has a bit lower max OD but that mostly serves to make it a LOT easier to scan.
I WILL say I prefer either Kodachrome or E6 for serious colour shooting, though. UNfortunately, I can't get my 120 K25 any more, (&(*&( it.
Btw, don't knock D76. If you KNOW that's what is going to be used, and how, you can get results that are as good as anything else. If you want, mail me privately and I'll point you to some scans of some D76 developed PanF, etc that there's nothing to complain about.
For the record, I despise Microdol, the stuff you use from concentrate that I hated so much I don't remember the name, and I'm not real swell on Tmax except on Tmax film, either. Technitol is a pest, but Tech Pan is wonderful stuff IF the lab handles it well. On that point I will agree most don't, and most get far too much contrast. I don't generally shoot litho.
I do wish I could still get FG7 split solution (type A/B) for situations where the compensating property would come in handy, though.
JJ
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