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In Reply to: So, film DOES make a difference, eh, puddytat? posted by jj on March 10, 2002 at 20:00:21:
It is really irrelevant what influence a film would have in photography because you can’t properly interpret its influence anyway. What’s relevant is the fact that you're a member of Phony-Audio-Knowledge-Establishment and my pessimism about your (or your-like) potency to delivery (or even to reflect) any Audio Result worth of any discriminative attention.
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I am not into this cat-fight,but regarding photography, as a professional photojournalist, I know the future is in digital.I have been using film since my teens,now four decades later I've accumalated drawers full of negs and slides.
With a computer hard drive I can store more than I'll ever get to.Using todays excellent EPSON printers and with a little mastery of photoshop we can turn out prints that will last from 25 - 200 years rivaling their film brethren.
It is after all the final image (print) like music, the emotions they evoke in each of us, not how it was created or medium used.
Romy I agree your love of Nikon FM 3 might have something to do with it's features and a metal body,unlike the majority of plastic crap out there.My F5's and D1's are metal as well.
What they do share is the fabulous Nikon Lens system, a combination of sharpness and unmatched versatility.
There will always remain those that like to fiddle with film chemistry or flip over an LP and lovingly remove every spec of dust (Snap ,Crackle and Pop).
The Digital age is upon us it must be embraced not fought against.
*** It is after all the final image (print) like music, the emotions they evoke in each of us, not how it was created or medium used.Well, there is Audio and there is Music, Similar to it there is Photography and there is Photography. Music dose not know about the existence of Audio as well if you communicate by Photography Language then the Method of Photography is irrelevant…
*** Romy I agree your love of Nikon FM 3 might have something to do with it's features and a metal body, unlike the majority of plastic crap out there. My F5's and D1's are metal as well.
“Metal” has nothing to do with it I think you lost what I meant
***What they do share is the fabulous Nikon Lens system, a combination of sharpness and unmatched versatility.
Just for the sake of objectivity I am not a big admirer of “fabulous Nikon Lens system”.
*** There will always remain those that like to fiddle with film chemistry or flip over an LP and lovingly remove every spec of dust (Snap ,Crackle and Pop). The Digital age is upon us it must be embraced not fought against.
And I do not see any fight. The methods of Reality transition are well known in visual art (contrary to Sound) and there are not fundamental impediments why digital should not take over the analog photography.
Not an admirer of the Nikon Lens system? Shock! Outrage! Sacrilege!Actually, it's like everything else; some great ones, some good ones, some average, and some dogs. The trick is to not buy the dogs, and to pick and choose from the best buys and "sleepers" among the others. For example, I just found a Nikon Series E 75-150 with excellent optical condition for $89.
But in the more popular ranges (leave out the $4000 and up models) I think Canon has better glass on average, as does the Minolta Maxxum line. Pentax is probably below Nikon in the AF lines, but was equal or better back in the manual focus days. For instance, the Pentax 100 f/2.8 M series is every bit as good as the famous Nikkor 100 f/2.5, and had better coatings to boot.
Conventional wisdom is to buy Nikon because of their wonderful lenses. I bought Nikon because of the wonderful FE-2 (or FM-3a) and use a mixture of Nikon, Tamron, and Vivitar Series 1 glass. Whatever works best for me.
Here's a question: At the same time Nikon is bringing out G series AF lenses and VR lenses which are increasingly incompatible with earlier MF (and AF) bodies, they bring out the new FM-3a. Does that make any sense? Schizoid management? Any thoughts?
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