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In Reply to: Beautiful place to shoot..........What if I ...... posted by Joe M on June 9, 2006 at 05:46:18:
You mentioned Ansel in reference to Steve's other shot. I thought I would see what some cropping, desaturation and level adjustment (to deepen the mid tones) could do. I didn't mess with the noise present in the sky, but that could easily be fixed.Steve, you're very fortunate living close to such beautiful geography!
-Anthony
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.....pretty well.....but can you make it more , uhmm....... silvery..?I'm using Photoshop 5.0. It can desaturate but in my fumbling around I've yet to find a true BW effect that can reveal the silvery look that is in a true analog photo.
BTW, you mention fixing the noise in the sky. Could you elaborate on that?
-Steve
Noise Ninja looks pretty impressive from the example on their website. The latest version of Photoshop also has a Reduce Noise filter aimed specifically at digital camera noise artifacts. Still, there might be a reasonable solution in Photoshop 5.Before desaturating, use the Magic Wand tool to select the sky region (less the moon). Save the selection and then desaturate the entire image. Next, load the saved selection and apply the Filter/Noise/Median command. Since there isn't any detail in the sky, averaging adjacent pixels won't do any harm. If you had wispy clouds in the frame, however, it would be a little more complicated.
As far as silvery goes, I think that's primarily the domain of film emulsions. There probably ARE printing technologies that can mimic the effect, but we amateurs may be SOL.
-Anthony
I really hadn't thought of this as a BW image when I took it so I'm sticking with colors. I did try your suggestion for removing some noise from the sky....and it worked to a fair degree, I think.Magic Wand/select sky less moon/save selection
Filter/Noise/Median/
5 pixels seemed to work.Then I inversed the selection and applied levels, darkening the midtones. I think this gives the rock a more saturated color.
Thanks Anthony for the Photoshop tips.
I'm having some fun here.-Steve
PS: I think the reference to A. Adams comes about not because I was trying to duplicate a particular shot (Moon Over Half Dome, perhaps..?), but because the landscape of the North Cascades has some of the same features as can be found in Yosemite. The Cascades, in Washington State, are also quite different and offer alpine type views. Many of the peaks are volcanoes, btw. Some active, most inactive. It's a wild place up there.
Moon and Half Dome 1960 A. Adams
- http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Moon-and-Half-Dome-Yosemite-National-Park-1960-Posters_i916275_.htm (Open in New Window)
Ya gotta admit, there is a certain charm to it.....and it probably helped to pay the mortgage off.How about you..? Care to put up a shot or two for the rest of us amateurs to ogle..?
-Steve
My daughter is getting married next month July 8th. While I can't shoot all of the wedding pics, (like me walking her down the isle)
my buddy will.I did do her engagement pics on the beach here in Boca, FL
Taken in early evening light, looks like. I like the one on top best but they all convey the mood.
The recent Ft. Lauderdale Air & Sea Show for publications.All photos © joe m '06
These are all great. The shot on top seems spectacular the way you've framed it. My hats off to you sir.-Steve
Oh yeah, Photoshop is a LOT of fun. Fortunately I didn't figure out that I enjoy photography and photomanipulation until I graduated college. It would have been a shame to turn that kind of enjoyment into a profession ;)Noise is unfortunately an issue that affordable digital cameras need to improve on. The D70s seems to manage fairly well, considering. I still don't own DSLR, but that's the one I've been considering so thanks a lot for posting your images.
-Anthony
I suspect the noise is as much a result of my sensitivity setting as anything else. I could easily made the shot (hand held)at iso 800 or even 400 with the light that was there. Even better I could have used the tripod (the one that was in the car) and set iso to 200. I'm still getting used to the camera. Plenty of settings to get figured out.I sure am happy with the D70s at the moment.... but if we wait another year or 2 there will be something new to take its place. Perhaps the resolution of the D200 or even D2xs in the body of the D70 and at the lower price. Who knows. This is why I didn't go over the top and spring for the D200. Obsolescence comes fast with the digital stuff.
BTW this last Photoshop exercise made an excellent print on 11 x 17 inch paper. Image size was 10 x 11 or thereabouts. Looks better than anything I ever got off of 35mm film. Nice composition with the crop that you did. I have a frame that should fit nicely once I cut a new mat. Thanks again for your suggestion and tips. That worked nicely.
-Steve
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