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In Reply to: That was not photoshoped Velvia and numerous awards and money- I shoot real Zeiss on my 'Blad doing pro nature shots posted by Joe M on May 18, 2004 at 16:02:03:
How 'bout just showing ONE action shot for staters, please? And just set it at 50 DPI so nobody can STEAL it, pal.You ask me how many 'action shots' I want to look at and then tell me that you won't show them to me, interesting. I've got tons of action shots and would be willing to post them in the interest of discussion and sharing. Isn't that what this forum is for.. or is it for arguing?
Regarding the 'dead center' matter of the mating doves that you decided to push aside because you realised there was no possible way of a come-back; how would you compose a shot of two doves mating taken on the fly so to speak? Place them in the upper left-hand corner? I believe two doves mating is indeed the subject of the photograph, not the greenery.
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I took the liberty to photoshop your mating shot . In an effort to show another possiblity by a different shooter , side by side with you.That other shooter might use a diferent lens and settings. Say an 80-200 f2.8 working aperature or even a more tele, like 300 f4 opening. This would cause the shallow focus, giving the effect of blurring some distracting elements within the scene . With the leaves out of focus , this would allow the viewers full attention onto those love birds.
I then would prefocus on the action awaiting for the right moment, adjusting my framing of-center for better composition.
When came time to print, I would dodge (lighten the feathers a little) and burn down (darken those white bright highlights, where white kills a scene faster than anything). Leaving all emphasis where it belongs just on the Doves.
This is certainly not the only treatment in capturing a good photo, but what I did fast to show you some alternative.
Thank you for cleaning up the image and for the welcome.
Your skills are evident by this action alone.I agree with all of your points and would have done the same if conditions were different. I was out walking and just happened to catch this activity out of the corner of my eye. This was strictly a quick capture situation. There was simply no time to make the adjustments that I would have preferred because the male dove was ready to take off. Regarding post-processing, I generally don't play around with photoshop unless I have a real knock-out image that I am going to market or whatever.
But thank you again for taking the time and energy to clean up what was meant to be a cute and humorous on-the-fly shot. It looks much better, Joe, and aptly demonstrates your obvious talents.
And I am positive that you were also a great editor
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Cheers!
I stayed up last night til almost 1oclock, recreating that shot for you, and anyone reading that post. Looking forword to more and varying dialog between us.
Be well.
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