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In Reply to: What are you using for car wax? posted by Postal Grunt on April 3, 2005 at 19:57:24:
Groits is good, though prefer various Zymol products. Great shine, lasts for a good while (unlike Techwax or the like), and is a cleaner AND wax WITHOUT being overly abrasive. Sometimes i will follow that with a coat of Zymol Ital wax or some other very high content carnibua wax.The car boards i regularly visit seen to have tried... everything. The car wax debates make the audio ABX guys seem calm(!). The ?P27? product is also highly enjoyed BUT you may have to debate the amount of shine versus the durability. In the end i choose Zymol Cleaner/Wax.
FYI: Groits seems to repackage OTHER products i have been told. ALSO, if your car is semi-neglected or is in need, after you wash the car i can highly recommend using clay bar cleaner. This is especially true for the front section of the car that receives dirt/debris more than other parts of the car.
i'd post pics here, yet my server does not allow other websites to insert photos. Basically, the shine is soooo deep, sharp and clear, and color correct it is mind-boggling... but a good was/clay bar. cleanerwax/then Ital wax HAD BETTER do that for the $$(!).
The whole process takes time and effort and is not a simple spray on, wipe off. Guess it depends on the effort you desire for a full cleaning and polish.
Enjoy the Drive,
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Steve,I'm a big Zymol fan, too. I started using years ago after I'd purchased a car which I really wanted to preserve the finish of. Basic cleaner waxes ended up chaffing/chalking the finish. Zymol did amazing things and now helps preserve the finishes of my cars. I also like other Zymol products, too.
Can you tell me/us more about clay? What is is/does?
The clay bar products that I've seen offered by several different sources are used to clean the paint surface without the use of an abrasive. Supposedly, the clay bar system has been used by auto body and paint shops for years.
The Meguiars and Mother's web sites have streaming video clips that go into detail on this application. The Griot's Garage catalog is another big fan of using a clay bar.
After washing your car's surface, you spray it with a lubricant such as "detailer" and slide a flattened piece of the clay over the paint. The clay will pick up bug residue, paint overspray or other surface imperfections without removing any paint. Using an abrasive cleaner removes a small amount of the paint or clear coat. Another advantage of using the clay bar is that it is supposedly a fast way to clean the surface.
I've used a clay bar and I've used Meguiar's Paint Cleaner to prep the surface of my Accord before waxing. Both make the job of waxing easier and enable the wax or paint sealant to last longer.
Thanks. I'm going to give this a try.
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