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In Reply to: "drugs were a poor tool for discovering truth." posted by J.R. on June 16, 2004 at 18:30:45:
I think not. Drug abuse = path to disillusionment and self deception. You are like the man who looked in the mirror...and when he turned away forgot who he was.
Follow Ups:
"Journey to Ixtlan" is not, I repeat, not about drugs. In fact,
Carlos, early in the book distances himself from the drugs of the
first two books. I don't think you have even read this book. You
castigate the book with "drugs were a poor tool for discovering
truth" when it's not about drugs but about techniques and practices
on the sorcerer's path. And you seem to be of the "parts is parts"
school, or, to make it simple for you, "drugs is drugs." For what it's worth, the "drugs" discussed in the first two book are incapable of being abused. There has never been, for example, an
abuser of peyote or mushrooms or datura. The idea is ludicrous.
We're not talking about cocaine or heroin here you know. Or alcohol
or tobacco. As to the mirror of self-deception, well it does not
take a mirror. But you won't have a clue as to what that means.
Regards,
Here in Valencia (Spain) a Danish young man was arrested yesterday, after he was caught offering some strange brew, of a brown-greenish colour, based on stramonium (datura) to young people: five of them were hospitalized, with one of them in deep coma.When caught, the bastard had a five liter (one and a half gallons) recipient hanging, and I am still wondering how much harm he could have done...
Yes, some people are always doing the most stupid, and dangerous things...
Regards
There are no datura addicts, but datura is an extremely dangerous
plant. The Zuni say it should only be taken with a special kind of
healer and if one takes it alone he'll be lucky if he dies. Carlos's
datura experiences are his most bizarre drug experiments. It is
appallingly irresponsible to give datura to anyone. In a nutshell,
it's toxic and very, very dangerous. Regards,
You are 64 years old and still in need of an awakening apart from peyote and God knows what else. Addicts rarely recognize their addiction be it physical or psychological...you might be in denial. Drugs are a block to true awakening. Buddha did not smoke dope beneath the Bodhi tree. No, I'm not enlightened nor do I pretend to be any more so than a rock. This is good. I will leave pretense of spiritual superiority to others. Try zazen, you are primed for it and won't burn up brain cells.
Or me for that matter. I'm certainly not enlightened. You are rather
obviously not only not enlightened, but also chock full of
presumption. I might be in denial? You can't even seem to grasp the
simple fact that "Journey to Ixtlan" is not about drugs. Not only
that, but you condemn it for what it is not and you have not even
read it. Just can't let go of your error, can you. That's a rather
hideous addiction Dennzio, a spirit-destroying, soul-sucking
addiction worse than junk or toot. Plus it makes you look dumber than
a sack of rocks. You really should read "Journey to Ixtlan" it can
help you with your problem. Why do you want to be as predictable as
a hamster? Vary your routines or something. Get outside of Dennzio or
you are damned. I'll bet you wear advertising on your bike apparel.
Regards,
I now know that years of peyote and mushrooms do no enlighten one. I will look elsewhere. I am every thing you want me to be. If it serves your purpose, I am dull witted and stupid. This will bolster your ego enough for you to continue on this path of spiritual pride. Enough of this, I must go find my box of rocks. Good day.
Do you know what Blake calls Satan? The Accuser of Sin. You practice
what you accuse me of. What repellent compartmentalization, bolstered
by your passive-aggressiveness ("If it serves your purpose, I am
dull-witted and stupid.") Jesus, you really said that. You are a
junky for being right. Hopelessly addicted. Read that book; then you
can talk about it with some basis and probably help yourself to boot.
I guess you prefer the "lead role in a cage." Myself, I'll be happy
with a "walk-on in the war." Regards,
Enjoy your reality.
Roasted tomato/chipotle salsa:Take six medium tomatoes, cored and cut in half.
With a bit of olive oil, salt, and pepper, roast
or broil them until they begin to blacken and bubble.
Meanwhile carmelize a large onion and three large
cloves of garlic. Put the onion and the tomatoes in
a food processor along with an 11 oz. can of chipotles
adabo. Process until smooth. Saute the stuff with canola
oil in a very hot pan for three minutes. That's it.
Goes well with carnitas and creme fraiche in corn tortillas.Carnitas:
Take and sear a 6-8 pound Boston Butt pork roast (this is the only
acceptable cut of pork for carnitas). Roast it in a roaster pan
filled one third up the roast with water for three hours at 325.
When done take it out and cut it into chunks removing as much fat as
possible. Deep fry the chunks quickly in very hot olive oil. That's
it. Believe it or not, it's not greasy. Regards,
I'm not very nice sometimes.
Look
Well, it worked. I'm bored. I'd swat that pesky fly right away.
Regards,J.R., looking for freedom, not enlightenment. Zen is not-doing by
the way, another technique of Don Juan's. Freedom takes a lot of
work.
Believe Zen is Japanese flavor of Mahayana Branch of Buddhism
from China. Zen's emphasis on not-doing, we believe derives
from Mahayana's absorption of Taoism's 'wui-wei'(non-action)after
Mahayana migrated from India to China earlier.
You might find mine and Doug Renselle's dialogue on similarities and
differences tween Buddhism and his Quantonics interesting, if inclined go to: www.quantonics.com, Letters Section, Dialogues
Twixt Doug and AH. Regards ~AH
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